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Copyright Holder - Who Has the Right for VERO Action on eBay?
Published by: wktd 2010-03-15
  • Which company has the right to take action to prevent circulation of pirated (bootleg) DVDs - especially on eBay (i.e VERO)? Is it the production company, the distribution company or some other comapny? Or can any of them do it? For example, Teletubbies is produced by Ragdoll Productions. But the BBC, PBS and Warner Home Video are all involved with bringing Teletubbies DVDs to the market. Can any of these companies block the distribution of pirated U.S. Teletubbies DVDs or does only one of them have this right?


  • Dear Augusta, You'd like to counteract it, among other reasons, because of the people behind it: International Crime Threat Assesment Report


  • It's a huge problem and virtually impossible to counteract. A friend of mine has just returned from China where almost any CD or DVD is available for $1 each. (Yes, and all in English apparently) Same story in other countries in the Far East, I believe. After all, they're just slivers of plastic.


  • I am interested in knowing which entity, in the chain from production to retail selling, has the legal right to claim that its rights are being infringed by pirated DVDs. ------------------ It is a huge problem for huge corporations and an huge opportunity for consumers. As a consumer, why would you want to counteract it?


  • augusta-ga, I only commented on -- rather than answered -- your question, since I recognized that I didn't have enough information for a formal answer. You are not charged for any such comments. Only if a researcher formally answers your question, will you be assessed the $5 fee you have offered. Hopefully, someone will be able to provide an answer, but I, myself, cannot, at the moment. All the best, pafalafa-ga


  • pafalafa-ga, I enjoy listening to WBUR.ORG out of Boston. My favourite show is On Point and I like The Connection too. regards, Augusta, Georgia


  • My understanding is that the entity that suffers economic loss generally has the strongest -infringement case. If the Teletubbies received a flat fee from Ragdoll, then they already got their $$$ and don't suffer any direct loss from bootlegs. But if they get a percentage of DVD sales, then they are being hurt by bootlegs. Probably, anyone in the chain of ownership and licensing could take action, but the ones with direct economic interest have the strongest case (and the most incentive!) to take action. Are you looking for documentation of this as an answer to your question? Let us know. pafalafa-ga


  • Again Augusta, There is a big difference (IMHO, but also backed by recent court rulings) between a person downloading from Kazaa for their own use, and people who duplicate millions of records or DVDs in order to make profit. It is a fact that these people are mafia or terrorists; these are the people who sell this kind of stuff on eBay or in stands in the Thurd World, not "small guys" copying for themselves or their friends. If you hate so much "big business" and side the "small guy", why support the "big business" of mafia/terrorism? I have my own opinions on the pricing policy and the general policies of the recording industry. However, objection to the current powers doesn't mean that we have to side with even darker powers (see LOTR for reference... :). Moreover, VERO doesn't take care only of this kind of violation, but also with fake Guccis, etc. If you appreciate Gucci, you wouldn't want to buy something which is not Gucci and which rips off the hard work of the Gucci people; if you think that Gucci also represent some kind of quality, you wouldn't want to buy something which is a fake Gucci, and took apparently less qualified job to produce; and if you think that "big guys" are yuck and labels don't mean anything, why should you buy a fake Gucci and donate to the Russia/Chinese mafia? Regarding who holds the and has the right to sue, I can refer you to a owner database.


  • From the individual's perspective, buying a bootleg DVD creates a tangible increase in the quality of his/her life. While the negative consequeces of the one purchase are infinitesimal. Moreover, the cumulative effect of the millions of transactions tends to damage: 1) the big U.S. entertainmeent companies, that are doing just fine anyway and have many other lucrative sources of revenue. 2) a very small percentage of the U.S. economy which is the biggest and richest in the world and so can take the hits. I take the side of the little guy. Long live free information and the widespread disemination of culture.


  • Politicalguru's comment is interesting because I'm told (rightly or wrongly) that there are now more Mercs & BMWs in Moscow than in Paris. All is explained! Or is it?


  • politicalguru-ga, Well, you have given me something to chew on there. Thanks. Can you refer me to a owner database? Augusta, Georgia


  • pafalafa-ga, Thanks for your valauable contribution. As I am unaware of what your credentials are, I cannot be satisfied with just your understanding of the issue. Moreover, you used the world "probably" in your comment, and that casts further doubt on the accuracy of your statement. Can you provide documentation of your explanation? regards, Augusta, Georgia p.s. I don't think the Teletubbies received a flat fee from Ragdoll Productions because they are fictional characters created by Ragdoll Productions (Unless I missed an episode.)





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